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MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 1:00am PST
get to another seemingly intractable debate and that's the fiscal cliff. congress has left town and there's no deal here. senator schumer, the president is now proposing a smaller deal. are we going to avoid the fiscal cliff by the first of the year or not? >> i hope so. if you look at the final positions last monday of both the president and speaker boehner, they were this close, they were this close to a solution. the president was about $200 billion higher on revenues, speaker boehner $200 billion higher on spending cuts. out of a $4 trillion budget, that doesn't seem insurmountable. so i hope they would keep talking. my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this -- you cannot pass a bill with just republicans. on a broad thing like this, you need both and he has put himself with plan b in sort of an impossible position. he has to get these hard right guys to go along with him. if he were to say and the president were to say we're going to pass a bill with a majority of democrats and majority of democrats in the house and senate we could get a mainstream bill. i know he's worri
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
is cutting short his christmas break with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 11:00am PST
on capitol hill. >> the fiscal cliff is the response to congress's inaction. that's the fact. the reason we're here is because we were unable to complete the business at hand. we postponed everything until the end of the year. the reason the tax cuts expire and the revenue provisions a part of that but also the spending cut that is are across the board in a haphazard way, that's congress's fault and where we are. i think the president's accurate in the way he described it. whether he should have articulated it, i leave that up to him but certainly the president has negotiated a deal that i believe will get the support of the majority of the house and the senate and i think we are going to get this done. >> how do you see this plays out as the clock ticks? is there enough time to get it done if it comes over to the house and if there's a delay or any kind of a hold-up or an objection, that's going to take us passed midnight. >> up to speaker boehner. assuming the senate is able to pass before they send it to the house then they'll walk it across the capital and if speaker boehner b
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 1:00am PST
here, thank you. >> the obvious question -- are we going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think we're going to find out in the next 48 hours what congress decides to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended and they're all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight, december 31st, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they're less likely to hire and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is starting to pick up and we're seeing signs of recovery in housing and employment numbers improving. so what congress needs to do first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campaign. what i said
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 1:00pm PST
over the fiscal cliff? >> we'll find out in the next 48 hours what congress will decide to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended, and they are all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight december 31, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they are less likely to hire, and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is actually starting to pick up. we are seeing signs of recovery in housing and in employment numbers improving. and so what congress needs to do, first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campaign. what i said was t
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 4:00am PST
sequester. >> under current law on january 1st, 2013, there's going to be a massive fiscal cliff of large spending cuts and tax increases. i hope that congress will look at that and figure out ways to achieve the same long-run fiscal improvement without having it all happen at one date. >> there's still significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. there's still time left to reach an agreement. and we intend to continue negotiations. >> and so, here we are, new year's eve, and the country counts down to popping champagne corks, the ball dropping in times square, and going over the fiscal cliff. if congress fails to act in the remaining hours of 2012, taxes will go up on all americans and a series of mandatory government spending cuts will kick in. hello, new year. hello, new recession. after two years of missing self-imposed deadline after self-imposed deadline, all eyes were on the senate over the weekend as the house's failure to even bring a plan to a vote left it up to the upper chamber to find a way out. vice president biden who had remained on the sidelines in this round of talks was even called in to help move thin
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 1:00am PST
forgotten in the fiscal cliff fight. i put my faith in them to continue to raise this flag and to say, we cannot let congress leave washington without taking care of these folks. >> john nichols, as always, thank you so very much, my friend. that's it for the ed show. ezra klein is filling in for rachel tonight. always good to see you, my friend. >> good to see you too, and happy friday. and thanks to you at home for sticking around for the next hour. rachel's got the night off, but we learned something huge today. we are going over the fiscal cliff. we are going either all the way over or going partly over, but we are definitely, definitely going over. that whole fiscal cliff thing, where congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> allow
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 4:00pm PST
? you've got half of those cuts in defense alone. >> well, the other part of the fiscal cliff is congress agreed that they would cut an additional $1.2 trillion in spending. they put a committee together to try to come up with those numbers. they didn't figure out how to do it. and so what we now have is a situation where these automatic spending cuts go into place. now if we have raised some revenue by the wealthy paying a little bit more, that would be sufficient to turn off what's called the sequester, these automatic spending cuts. and that also would have a better outcome for our economy long-term. but you know, so far at least, congress has not been able to get this stuff done. not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate. but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit. as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> you talk about a dysfunction in washington. you signed this legislation setting up the fiscal cliff 17 months ago. how
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 3:00am PST
. rachel's got the night off, but we learned something huge today. we are going over the fiscal cliff. we are going either all the way over or going partly over, but we are definitely, definitely going over. that whole fiscal cliff thing, where congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> allow me a quick update here. that press conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american peop
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 8:00am PST
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MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 11:00am PST
politics. less than three days until the so-called fiscal cliff and congress still trying to hammer out a deal. they've had 515 days to work this out. still, though, capitol hill leaders are at an impasse and starting next week, you and i could see our paychecks cut as payroll taxes go up and that could be just the beginning. the clock at the bottom right of your screen there might as well have a blaringa, large on it because come midnight monday if lawmakers have not found the fiscal cliff solution you're going to hear a whole heck of a lot of noise. let's get straight to washington. nbc's kristen welker at the white house and luke russert is tracking developments at capitol hill and nbc news senior political editor mark murray is here to break it down for us from the washington bureau. we will start with kristen. last we heard, kristen welker, the president came out to report that he is modestly optimistic. has the rhetoric changed at all today? >> reporter: it has changed a little bit. the president is still modestly optimistic, but i just spoke with a democratic source who tells me at
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 6:00am PST
. >> lots to talk about, but first, your take on the fiscal cliff. >> isn't congress great? yesterday nbc had a poll, they had a 11% approval rating. the more shocking part is who are the 11% who think they're doing a good job? how low are their standards to think that congress -- this is the most dysfunctional group of people. we have to put them in couples therapy with dr. phil, dr. doolittle. i'm not sure who can help them. >> i'm not sure. >> we suffer as a result of their bipartisanship. >> we talked about the binders full of women, clint eastwood with the chair. general david petraeus. >> that was a big one, although in clint eastwood's defense, he made it okay to talk to your chair on national television. i've had conversations with my couch now as a result. >> you have? what do you say to your couch? >> we're close. i need more friends, apparently. i have to get on facebook and talk to more people. but it became james bond meets "the real housewives." you had the cia director, the top spy, his affair was uncovered. affairs are wrong, but if you're the top spy, keep this secret
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 8:00am PST
first eight days until the fiscal cliff deadlines, through the has of congress not a creature is stirring, not even a lawmakers. hopes of a deal are fading. before taking off, the president urged congress that pass a scaled-back stop-gap measure. >> senators agreed on sunday to pass -- >> i think unfortunately there will only be a small deal. >> it is going to be a patch. >> kristin welker, traveling with the president in honolulu. the question is will he be cutting hi vacation short? does he have a royal to play? or is it up to the senate, as some are saying? >> reporter: first of all, i think it is likely we'll see him cut his vacation short. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to work together. a lot of focus shifts to mcdonnell. he has to try to get something that will pass with republicans that they can get through the house and senate, but i think president obama certainly has a role to play. remember, he is the one who ran on the platform. >>> you heard him map out on friday. he would like a scaled-back version of the grand bargain,
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 5:00pm PST
edge of the fiscal cliff and the least productive congress in history? >> the public is implicated in this. 2008 the public elected president obama, democratic house, democratic senate. 2010, a large number of people in the public changed their minds they got angry at us over health care, which was misunderstood, angry at us because we inherited a section that we weren't able to defeat because of their obstruction. in 010 -- in most democracies that would be it. we have a constitution under which it's called the staggered powers, checks and balances, the last three elections are there. the problem is in 2008 you had one group of people elected, in 2010, another. there wasn't simply the people in 2010 were conservative. very substantial number of the people elected as republicans in 2010 do not believe in governance. they do not understand there are things we need for the quality of life we have to come together. this isn't bob dole. this isn't howard baker. this isn't ronald reagan. these are people that are quite extreme. what's happened is that many republican whose believe in co
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 3:00pm PST
fiscal cliff, but clarence page, you covered congress. you covered the hill in washington for some time better than -- >> long time, yeah. >> better than most that i've known. have you ever seen a congress like this? and do you think that it is that they are so etiological? >> on the republican side, you'll have a lot of tea party folks and others who are worried about being challenged in primaries coming up in 2014. and they don't produce anything, that's fine. the more they block things, the better. and especially when it comes to anything involving raising taxes. they don't want to raise any taxes because they can see the attack ads already. and they're districts, i'm talking about in the house, in particular. you've got districts that have been carved. there's only half a dozen republicans in the house. i think that's mentioned in the article. there's only about six republicans in the house that are in districts that are friendly to democrats. the rest are pretty solidly republican districts and they don't lose any points by holding the line on taxes. and what hasn't been talke
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 6:00am PST
to avoid the most immediate economic impacts of the fiscal cliff. with 15 hours to go and counting, members of congress are disgusted and embarrassed. >> when the future of the country, you know, rests in the hands of 70 and 80-year-olds who have jet lag, it's probably not the best thing. >> something has done terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our american economy is our american congress. >> the senate will reconvene at 11:00 this morning, but after a day of public gamesmanship and little obvious progress behind the scenes on sunday. >> there's still significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. >> mitch mcconnell called on vice president joe biden to be that dance partner. biden has brokered 11th-hour deals with the republican leader in the past. mcconnell's appeal came just hours after the president appeared on "meet the press" and called out republican leaders by name. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done, not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and coop
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 9:00am PST
sidelines as obamas, republicans in congress tackle fiscal cliff. the most visible former elected official in the tea party and, of course, chairman of freedom works tried to oust several freedom works officials this fall. in fact, according to the post, army thieves control momentarily of the group. and he brought a gun carrying aide to remove rivals within the organization. but within a week, army was out. freedom works arranged an $8 million pay page for him. $8 million. that is more than the organization's entire annual budget in some years. over in the house, several tea party allies were recently stripped of their committee assignments by speaker boehner. so there are some problems there at the top. an influential conservative is lashing out. >> the tea party is going of to look at itself. it's been so helpful to the republican party in the past. it saved i by not going third party in 2010, helping the republicans sweep the house. but the tea party style of rage is not one that wins over convertes and makes people lean toward them and say, i want to listen to you. >> so ther
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 11:00pm PST
homage to the beatles. that was put on cups to push members of congress to come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. shultz followed up with a blog saying everyone should put the pressure on congress. >>> a cartoonist went a more pessimistic approach. a box labeled deficit crisis compromised saying do not open until with all the holidays crossed out signed by boehner and obama. >>> all featured on politico's list of the top viral videos of 2012. the politico ones, of course. here's a look back. >> in the silvery moonlight that bathes every town, the people lie dreaming so safe and so sound. they're warm in their beds, snuggled up in the sheets. but four years before, they were out in the streets. sorry, my friend, but there's no time to snore. we're all on our own if romney has his way. and he's against safety nets. if you fall, tough luck. so i strongly suggest that you wake the [ bleep ] up. >> there's only one thing that might deny us the presidency that is the god-given property and he's against safety nets. if you fall, tough luck. so i strongly suggest that you wake the [ bleep ] up. >>
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 12:00pm PST
fiscal cliff deadli deadline. thursday at noon the deadline for the current congress and then they won't have to restart the clock on pending legislation. >> so i know -- >> i'm glad you mentioned that. let's look bigger picture. this is set to be the least productive congress in history. 219 bills in this congress. >> right. >> the next lowest level was 333 bills during the '90s. so tremendously unproductive congress. as you mentioned, the new one will be sworn in and not looking a whole lot different. is this the new normal, the do-nothing congress? >> i think until we can sort of clear out of these fiscal issues, whether that's tonight or tomorrow, whether that's mid march, it is very difficult for other issues to rise to the to because of the nation's fiscal health and the global economy is at risk. we're going to see the administration roll out a gun control package at some point in january, perhaps as part of the state of the union in february. those are who major domestic policies sitting there. if the fiscal cliff conversations continue, certainly the other big issue relate
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 10:00pm PST
the president. >> the president is cutting his hawaii vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. >> really, it's kind of like falling down stairs. we have a dysfunctional congress. >> speaker boehner needs to bring his party along. >> it's pretty clear that he could not bring them along. >> john boehner doesn't seem to have full control of his caucus. >> they were this close. >> the republicans will be blamed. >> they were this close to a solution. >> we're going to head over that cliff. >> i know it's hard for the republicans. the minute those leaders move forward, they get viscerated. >> guns shouldn't be available for anyone, any time, anywhere. >> the conversation still wages on. >> its plan to add more guns to schools. >> a completely dumb-ass idea. >> i don't think the nra is listening. >> you can call it whatever you want to call it. >> congress hasn't confirmed the director of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. >> dysfunctional, dysfunctional, dysfunctional congress. >> we're not going to allow what has happened in the past to go on. >> congress has just three business days to pass legislation to avoid going over the fiscal curb. president obama has cut h
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 5:00am PST
>>> right now on msnbc, off the cliff. congress misses the midnight deadline. just two hours into the new year, though, the senate votes in favor of a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> the yeas are 89, the nays are 8, 60-vote partial having been achieved, the bill as amended is passed. >> so, now it's all up to the house, where lawmakers will pick up the measure at 12:00 noon today. >>> meantime, in good spirits. doctors report secretary of state hillary clinton is making progress while being treated for a blood clot in her head at new york hospital. >> three, two, one! >> and ringing in 2013. close to a million people packed new york's times square to watch the ball drop and celebrate 2013. good morning, everyone. it is january 1st. welcome to this special new year's edition of "msnbc live." i'm chris jansing. >>> well, we do have a deal, but it's not a done deal just yet. a little bit after 2:00 eastern time this morning, two hours after the u.s. economy officially went over the fiscal cliff, the senate passed a deal to avert its worst effects. the bill passed easily. it was a vote of 89-8, and it set up a showdown in the house which will convene four hours fr
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 12:00pm PST
. we are apart on big issues. >> with less than two days to go until the fiscal cliff negotiations have hit a major setback. the senate is in session but after 516 days congress has not been able to make a deal. this morning in an exclusive interview president obama said compromise will be a key to making a deal. >> it is very important for republicans in congress to be willing to say we understand we are not going to get 100%. we are willing to compromise in a serious way. >> senate leaders hoped to send a plan right about now. the talks have broken down. listen to what senate leader said on the floor a short while ago. >> now, i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. i think we all know we are running out of time. this is far too much at stake for political gamesmanship. the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. i am interested in getting a result here. >> we have been trying to come up with some counteroffer to my friends' proposal. we have been unable to do that. i had have had a conversation with the president and that this stage we are not able to make a counteroffer. >> what happens
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 11:00am PST
the fiscal cliff? >> i think absolutely. and i think also congress can buy a little more time if because, you know, what this deadline is congressional imposed so the band-aid over to january 2nd, the vote counting, 60 senate, 218 in the house is really -- this is the fine tuning that's going on to get these two big numbers in the deals and, thomas, i think then we have to think to get the patch, will it be bet tore have it slop over to the new congress in january 3rd or have the lame duck votes? i think even a patch may be a tough vote unless it's very, very broad so you have a few alternatives to go but at least if you're thinking small not big, there's a way out. >> all right. so reversing that, bob, thinking big not small, is the white house hoping to achieve some type of grand deal or is that just out of window at this point with so little time left? >> yes, thomas. i think any hope of a grand bargain this month is out the window. and the heavy lifting will be done, i agree with lynn, in 2013. with entitlement reform and tax reform. but number one, can you get a deal within
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 9:00am PST
act. because aside from the fiscal cliff issue, is this larger question of whether congress could act. i hope the senate does act. i hope that these meetings this afternoon, that both caucuses will come out saying that the senate should pass something. and not get all hung up on what boehner does. but actually pass something. >> yeah. we get hung up on speaker boehner sometimes. i want to push you on that because something a lot of people say, though, is that if we did this once, a big deal, 500 days, down to the wire, we didn't get a breakthrough, there are a lot of folks, including democrats who say well, why would a 60 or 90-day deal be any good? doesn't this just replay -- i take your point on the certainty of the markets in the short run -- >> go ahead. >> no, no. i'm saying more of -- half a loaf. the president has been talking about a very large deal, $1.6 trillion. if you get $800 billion now and say $800 billion later in tax reform, i would go for that. and i -- i would certainly encourage my colleagues to do that. >> understood. because -- because your time is limited go
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 9:00am PST
president talking about the fiscal cliff negotiations. he spoke exclusively on "meet the press" and he had a message for congress. >> at minimum, make sure people's taxes don't go up and 2 million people don't lose their unemployment. i was modestly hopeful yesterday. now, the pressure is on congress to produce. >> the president responded to what would happen if no agreement is reached and the nation does fall over that cliff. >> if you look at projections of 2013, people generally felt that the economy would continue to grow, unemployment would tick down, housing would continue to improve, but what's been holding us back is the dysfunction here in washington. if people start seeing that on january 1st, this problem still hasn't been solved, that we haven't seen the deficit reduction that we could have had, the republicans willing to take a deal that i give them. if they say that people's taxes have gone up, which means consumer spending is depressed, then it's going to have an adverse reaction in the markets. >> there was much more to what the president had to say. listen to what he had to say on deficits and spending
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 3:00pm PST
battles, today's fiscal cliff fight is, sadly, typical. in fact, this congress is on track to go down as the least productive congress since recordkeeping began. in the course of nearly two years, the 112th congress has passed 219 bills that have actually been signed into law by president obama. but a lot of these laws were insignificant, things like the names of post offices. and a slew of bills passed by the house had no chance of passing the senate or getting the president's signature, like repeated attempts to repeal the affordable care act. the influence of the tea party lawmakers have been a clear factor. >> the tea party, which is not even on the screen about a year ago at this time, is a very domineering force. >> one story will be with us, the rise of the tea party. >> regardless of what those elites think, the tea party movement is authentic, grassroots movement. >> i wouldn't sell short these candidates. >> tea party americans, you're winning. >> it's a big mistake not to take it seriously. >> you think the tea party is here to stay? >> absolutely. >> this book was jus
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 11:00am PST
hour away now from the late es effort to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. the three-way stare down between the white house, the senate, the congress moves to pennsylvania avenue. president obama meeting behind closed doors with house speaker boehner, senate majority leader harry reid and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell talking about doing something to keep more than trillion dollars in tax increases and cuts from taking effect next week. also joining that party today, america's happy warrior. vice president joe biden will be there. while some appear ready to compromise others are still ducking, dodging, trying to dump the blame elsewhere. >> we all have our ideas and in the senate, you're right. we probably another 40, 50, 60 of saying that we're ready to both raise revenues and control entitlements. when's the missing ingredient? it is presidential leadership. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff, namely taxes going up on middle class people. >> it's pretty apparent that we are not going to do what we've been called
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 12:00pm PST
optimistic that congress can pass a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, but is that optimism justified even if the senate can can come together and craft a deal? a very big if at this point and what are the chances that house speaker john boehner can get members of his congress to go along with the deal. joining me now perry bacon and lynn sweet. i want to start with you because i read something that you wrote an article recently in which you said basically that the rumors of the tea party's demise have been greatly exaggerated noting their key role in refusing to go along with john boehner's tax plan to raise taxes on those making more than $1 million a year. the fiscal cliff debate has illustrated then during influence of the tea party and the power of the conservative party. boehner can't guarantee that his members won't face primary challenges from the right so there's little surprise they won't follow his lead. >> mcconnell's not going agree to something that all other republicans are opposed to because he's a republican, too, and he has to worry about a primary, potenti
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 2:00am PST
fiscal cliff negotiations. on the positive side you won be seeing $8 a gallon for milk because congress gave a one year extension for the farm bill. those who love your 75 watt light bulbs stock up while supplies last. new federal laws prohibit them to be import order produced in 2013. the tribune company announced it's emerging from bankruptcy with new ownership and new board of directors and forbes has compiled a list of new york's resolution that successful people make and actually keep. among them plan vacations now. wake up to the essentials first, check e-mail second. support a cause. find your purpose and go for it. go for it. new year's day marks the 150th anniversary of emancipation proclamation. the document is once again on display. ron mott has details. >> reporter: showing its age the emancipation proclamation still draws attention. >> it's amazing to see abraham lincoln's signature. >> reporter: today the frail order consigned to history on january 1st, 1863 by abraham lincoln is again on public display. showtime just a few days every year. >> very uplifting experience. very im
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 6:00am PST
cliff and being a member of congress especially a respected member of the senate and what do you think is possible at this point on any type of a large scale deal. what do you see as the most likely scenario moving forward. >> i don't think it's a lack of urgency, but a great deal of concern that republican party failed to do anything. it seems that in the house, boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. i think the american people are very clear about what they want. what they want is to ask the wealthiest people in the country to pay their fair share of taxes. there was a poll out the other day, 70% of the american people think folks making over $250,000 a year should pay their fair share. they understand that one out of four corporations are paying nothing. the american people are very, very clear throughout this election and in polling as well. do not cut social security, medicare and medicaid. you have the situation with republicans saying hey, we don't think billionaires should pay a nickel more in taxes, but we think there should be cuts in programs impac
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 7:00am PST
now on the very issue of the debate of the fiscal cliff. is it really the tea party congress members or not? >> i think it's hard to predict exactly who might get blamed if something doesn't happen. that seems too far in the future for me but if you look at all of the piece that is are in play, the one thing we haven't talked about is the debt limit. it is going to be hit soon. and then the treasury can use extraordinary measures to extend it but caused the fight that made us sit here today to talk about the quote/unquote fiscal cliff and the republican haves the boehner rule to ask for a dollar in cut for every dollar the limit is extended. the debt limit being money that we have paid and obligation to pay. and so, if democrats and republicans aren't come together now, and a month and a half from now republicans come back to the table and say we need more cuts, i don't know what the president is going to look to to cut. seems like a complicated mess that they have on their hands and the more clarity they get now, the easier it's going to be in a few weeks from now. if they get a sma
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 8:00pm PST
the fiscal cliff, individuals will see taxes go up by $2,000, there is a lot of pressure on congress and white house to take action. that pleasure is playing a huge role. >> kristen welker and kelly o'donnell, thank you, both. we continue our breaking coverage of fiscal cliff talks and what appears to he about a last-minute break through when we come back. please stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things, like what the market is doing and being ready, no matter what happens, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense, from td ameritrade. [ ship horn blows ] no, no, no! stop! humans. one day we're coming up with the th
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Dec 26, 2012 2:30am PST
a good hard look at their wallets as confidence the avoidance of the fiscal cliff diminishes. >> there is hope a deal will be cut. >> reporter: if congress doesn't oaks spire tax cuts in day, middle income earners will owe $2,000 extra a year. consumers are predicted to cut back in automotive, apparel and entertainment. >> once people decide to cut back on that, the effect is dramatic. >> reporter: the national retail federation says retailers support 1 in 4 american jobs and if the downward trend intensify, those jobs would be at risk. >> if retailers stop creating job, the economy as a whole will stop creating jobs. >> reporter: the wait is e excruciating. president obama visited hawaii after talks on capitol hill. they were $200 billion apart on a deal. >> the president was $2200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decision ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers are saying they will likely take on tax reform and spending cuts again in the new year when the debt ceiling debate heats up. richard, back to you. >> looks like the
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 7:00am PST
to be the number one priority for the foreseeable future. >> jill, if this fiscal cliff bill does get done is the new congress going to be more or less likely to work with the president on his second term agenda? >> well, the president is going to have more senators to work with, 55 as opposed to 53. that doesn't mean he'll have an easy time of it because republicans can block anything they want in the senate. it depends on what lessons if any republicans took from the election. i do think that the principle gap is very deep and so i'm not sure that we're going to see a kumbaya situation. but as i say, there are some advantages for republicans in making some compromises if they will see it that way. and particularly the demographic challenges. so, you know, ultimately i think the one thing to do is keep -- be realistic about the timetable. i'm not sure the president is going to get everything done that he wants to in 2013 but i would bet on immigration reform. maybe that's crazy and you'll have me back here and i'll have to say no i was wrong. i do think it's so much in republicans' self-interest. they've got some
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 7:00am PST
scheduled to get back to work and avoid the fiscal cliff 45 minutes from now. president obama will be watching with the rest of country for a deal to be hammered out. he thinks republican leaders need to bend. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit and as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> i'm joined by congresswoman barbara lee a democrat from california. good to see you. good morning. >> good to see you. glad to be with you. >> let me give you the republican perspective. it is that some indications they are willing to give on taxes whether 400 or 450,000, that yesterday they floated this idea of changing social security. they've backed off on that. they apparently are willing to give on some of these estate taxes. the democrats are willing to give on some of the estate taxes. but what the republicans want is they say that this deal that's being offered looks like it actually puts us further in the hole. it's actually costing us more t
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 4:00am PST
congress. they will avoid the fiscal cliff, and they'll do it in a way that will produce a budget agreement either in this lame-duck session or in the first couple of months of next year. that's what i think will happen. >> there's the part of the conversation every year that drives mika crazy when i talk about how we all, in the 1990s, worked together despite some pretty tough differences. >> we didn't in 1995. we had a pretty rough '95. >> '95 was an ugly year. there were a couple of other ugly years. >> but the other ugly years we already had a modus operandi of working together. if you look at what was accomplished in '98, '99 and 2000, they were good years. the only desert year was 1999. >> i faulk specifically about 1999 because people will poke at me when i talk about how you and the republican congress worked together. i say no, you should look at 1999 because even in the worst of times, the president's people were talking to leaders of congress. >> every day. >> and somehow even in the worst of times, even in a constitutional crisis, government worked. people put the coun
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 10:00am PST
. keep in mind that the threat of tax hikes going up is only one part of this so-called fiscal cliff that everybody has been talking about. what we also have facing us starting tomorrow are automatic spending cuts that are scheduled to go into effect. keep in mind that some of these spending cuts that congress has said will automatically go into effect have an impact on our defense department, but they also have an impact on things like head start and so there are some programs that are scheduled to be cut that we're using an ax instead ax instead of a scalpel. may not always be the smartest cuts and so that is a piece of business that still has to be taken care of. and i want to make clear that any agreement we have to deal with these automatic spending cuts that are being threatened for next month, they have to be balanced. my principle is to do things in a balanced, responsible way and that means that revenues have to be part of the equation in turning off the sequester and eliminating the automatic spending cuts as well as spending cuts. now, the same is true for any future deficit agreement. obviously, we will have to do more to reduce the debt and deficit. i'm willing to do more but in a balanced, responsible way. for example, i'm willing to reduce the government's medicare bills by findi
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 7:00pm PST
fiscal curve on sunday night. >> if we go over the cliff, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today with the first of the year, aren't here. i can't mamg they are out wherever they r and we are here trying to get something done. >> president obama called leaders last night and tomorrow afternoon we will meet with the speaker and mix mcconnel and harry reid to see if they can avoid going off the fiscal curb on january 1st. today harry reid emphasized that there is ome one reason why they are unable to reach an agreement so far. >> this has been going on for years. they cannot cross over the threshold. people are not propose iing mak the taxes like them. john boehner could not even pass the tax proposal he passed over there. he said no, can't do that. didn't he bring it up for a vote? >> tonight, speaker boehner's office put out this statement. >> joining me now are our guests. clearly the positioning game continues. harry reid saying we did our job months ago. do you think we til would be@posturing stage at the end of that w
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 9:00am PST
-point drop in the number of americans who think congress will negotiate a deal on the fiscal cliff. that's not all, holiday spending also hit its lowest rate since the 2008 recession, which retailers are blaming on the uncertainty in washington. so where do we go from here? well, since the house failed to get a vote on the tax package last week, all eyes are on the senate. a temporary deal that would basically extend all the tax cuts for those making under a quarter million. the deal would also rescue long-term unemployment benefits and instead of addressing those automatic spending cuts we've all heard about that are set for january 1st, this temporary deal would delay them for another six months. few are optimistic this new plan, if we do go over the clifr, would work out. so what would half if we go over the cliff? the payroll tax holiday will expire on new year's day. that means most people will start paying more taxes in each paycheck. another 21 million americans would lose federal emergency unemployment benefits and those, let's remember, are people struggling the most right
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 7:00am PST
issues. in both houses of congress, if we get through this fiscal cliff and get to january, people will rightfully ask is there a better way to do this? since we seem to have a majority in both chambers that would like to solve the problem, but procedurally we're not getting to an answer. >> soon to be senator tim scott takes the oath next week, the only african-american senator, it highlights an interesting dichotomy. republicans have more minorities in the senate than democrats, while the party itself struggles with minority voters. >> i think you hit the nail on the head. clearly the republicans are having a major problem reaching out not just to people of color, but to women and so forth. i think what the republican party is trying to do is say, you know what? we have to do a better job. tim scott is a conservative from south carolina and also he's a earl if legislator in terms of being in the house of representatives, so it's perfect sense for him to go to the senate. we also see to a certain degree the first latino from texas, ted cruz, coming into the senate as well. so no q
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